This is LuckyFlanker13 here, just to check in some updates you made to Selvaria's gallery.
From what I've seen, it's edging a bit too close to NSFW territory; I'll be removing them in 24 hours unless you find a way to include them in a less obvious and easily clicked-fashion (say, external link on deviantart, for example).
I'd rather not our wikia not be labelled NSFW (damn you Honjou-san); we're a niche fandom as is, and we can't afford to lose any new players because of the wikia's risque look
Anyway, it's nice to welcome you back, and please respond as soon as you can.
PS - You know those risque background images (say, of Crymaria and Kai)? Do you know how to change those?
Interesting; how does that background system work?
As for the tabbing for Selvaria's NSFW images, I don't think that'll help, since tabs don't work on mobile (and thus'll show everything); perhaps an external NSFW page that the tab links to? any suggestions?
It's a bit much to give NSFW it's own page but sure that can work as well. I just implemented a collapsible for the time being in regards to the NSFW images. Given the nature of the artist and his provision of official artworks, not certain that will be the last time. But for now, we are prepared for future projects.
You can find more information with the background here.
It can't be helped in this case as the majority of official artworks can be deemed bordering NSFW. What we can do is place a warning disclaimer on the front page of the wiki. I would rather not have to censor everything and restrict information about the series.
I've implemented a NSFW tag. Please implement it on pages that you believe may pertain to be towards NSFW. Character pages shouldn't require it I believe unless there is relevant NSFW content on it, links to pages with that content shouldn't matter in that regard but those pages should have the tags.
Hello, could you fix or unlock Template:Infobox character? After whatever changes was made to how "Rank" parameter handled, now all pages with the Template that had "Rank" parameter with rank icon and rank names now not displaying it at all in the infobox, and now instead displaying broken category because it tries to create category with the rank image in it.
Hello, name's luckyflanker and I'm a recently-joined editor to the encyclopaedia.
In regards to editing, I've hit a bit of a roadblock -- it's been rather painful to hit the standards that you and Ragemaru have set on adding information to the Valkyria Chronicles 3 tank turret stat pages.
Not only have the screenshots been low quality, but its also been incredibly painful simply to get the screenshots consistent in size and having correct info. As you may know, recording the unlock conditions of each turret is dependent on story timing, making it harder to pull of the necessary screenshots as consistently as possible.
In my recent playthrough of VC3, I've been trying to keep to the standards you and Ragemaru have set, but I've realized that it may be slightly redundant; why do we need to record stats in the form of screenshots when typing them down is easier to keep neat, uniform, and to the qualities of this wikia?
Thanks for listening to me and watching over this awesome wiki! I hope to hear from you soon!
What did you need help with in regards to the true ending? Did you want to know what it entails (ie what happens in it) or did you need help putting it on the VC4 page? Please specify in that regard. It would be helpful to us if you could provide details to your request.
I still think the system of subdividing VC4 character pages into five sub-pages is excessive for one-off non-storyline characters: we don't do that with the characters in any of the other games, it's just all on the one page and works fine. I see the point of having a sub-page for quotes since that section tends to be very large compared to the rest of the article, but it seems to be complexity for the sake of complexity with all the others.
This is how the issue of consistency is being addressed. It hasn't been done for certain character pages because editors get to choose what they want to edit or work on. The plan was to get it on ALL the character pages. The idea was to get it on all main character pages first, then recurring characters and eventually all characters. Unfortunately, I am just one person.
I am open to suggestions in regards to addressing consistency and standardization for character pages. Is it complex to consider the element of choice when you peruse an article?
Wel when I read an article I like to have everything in one place: having to keep scrolling to the top is annoying, not to mention that often when you click to go to one of those sub-pages it's a blank stub anyway. I mean, isn't this just addressing a problem that the article's table of contents already solves?
Like I stated above, if you have an idea about how to handle consistency in terms of character page formats, please do share and I will adjust the pages accordingly. If you're having further issues with the template, I will create a guide for you to understand how it functions. I would rather continue to work on populating pages on this Wiki with missing information.
It wouldn't be a blank stub if the page was filled out. This format is contingent on the fact that content would need to exist. Content can only exist if you create it. If you don't add anything, of course there wouldn't be content to look at. This is a framework to display that content and it compels creation. If it's blank, take ownership and create it. Or just leave it blank, that is entirely your choice.
Yeah, but that's the problem with it, it turns a completely adequate page like the one for Odin into five stubs in the hope someone will wander by and fill them with...something. We don't need to give ourselves five times the workload trying to fill in all these tiny little pages when, as said, none of the other games have character pages laid out in this way.
As said, the layout used for characters in VC1, 2 and 3 is a fine model, everything on one page with sub-pages only if that character appears in multiple games. I'd add we could use a subsection for quotes since that's a pretty big section if it's filled, but that's about all the sub-pages there need to be.
Hey guys, I'm incline to agree with Evil Tim here. The Tab system is really confusing because they contain different category of information and yet they seem to be in the same grouping. It took me a while to understand what's going on. I have a few suggestions that might help:
Have one page only for all information regarding canonical Biography, Appearance, Personality, Story and Trivia.
Non-canonical info (Anime, VCD, Merchandise, etc.) should be on their own pages, or added to the Other Appearance section.
For all the Gameplay information in those little VC1, VC2, VC3, VC4 Tabs, the neatest way to organize them is to create a section called Gameplay Information (in each character's main page) and simply add links to them. Something like this:
For information regarding Alicia's stats, potentials, quotes, please refer to:
I can agree with that solution for the biography and the gameplay pages. For the most part, it seems all of the biography is canon so there won't be issues with trying to unify, besides removing it from the gameplay pages. I was actually thinking of something to that effect, like how it is with the biography section linking to the biography page. Merchandise can just have a small blurb on the character page and be linked to the appropriate page for it. I will also modify the character boxes for the gameplay pages as those shouldn't need much information compared to the main page.
Why in the world is it split up like that? You keep having to scroll back up to the top to get to the stuff you want, and it's not at all clear that gameplay information is going to be under a section called "VC4." It makes sense for character like Selvaria that appear in multiple games, I guess, but what's the point of having it there? It's not like they're real tabs, it has to load a whole new page every time you click on one of them.
Like I get it for galleries and quotes sections, but people probably want to see the unit's stats on the page for a unit rather than having to go find them, especially on the Squad E member pages.
I mean isn't this functionality already provided by the page having a table of contents?
Probably since they only have this single appearance in the game, it can be changed to gameplay to avoid the confusion. This is to make the pages consistent with the other character pages. The character page is to contain elements pertaining to the character, story-wise; while the gameplay page contains all facets of the gameplay elements and so on.
Eh, but with the basic Squad E characters there really isn't a huge amount to say about them, you end up with five stubs instead of a nice big fleshed-out article that has everything people want in one place.
And I really don't get the point of an appearance section when there's a picture of her right there.
Also I'm editing an old revision so it's going to restore all that other stuff, that's because last time I tried editing the current revision I got an edit conflict that turned my entire edit into bare HTML. Which is always fun.
I don't know about that, the Valkyria Chronicles 3 artbook release showed there was a plethora of information available for those characters we previously had no information for so I will wait and see for the artbook release for this game as well. For the sake of consistency, those character pages will be treated like the rest of the character pages granted there is reason to provide an exception to that page treatment.
I think an appearance section is essential for the visually impaired. They might not be able to see the image but at least they can have it described to them by the audio assistant reading the text for them.
That's fine, I didn't know you were editing at the time so my apologies for that. I can always format it back to how it should be formatted.
I think the section called "Notes" belongs on the gameplay page rather than as "Trivia" on the main page, because it's all information about her as a unit.
I'm not too sure about using website quotes: usually, the website is written by the game's publisher rather than the developers, and can contain errors from miscommunication.
The reason the DLC section on her as a boss is sectioned off from the section about her in the main game is she doesn't work the same way in the DLC. That part's specifically about the version you face when playing the DLC as Selvaria.
Should I add anything about A Captainless Squad to the story section? It's a goofy little story about Ragnarok trying to steal Fenrir's food, and doesn't seem to have actually happened since IIRC Crymaria doesn't recognise Rags when she sees him in Kosvall.
For Fina Sellers I think it needs to be split and have a character article "Medic" for VC1 because "Medic" is specifically said to be Fina, Mina and Gina Sellers, not just Fina. At the moment the entry for Medic in the VC1 squad template just links to the article for Fina.
And sure the publisher's an official source, I just don't think it's quite as good a source as the summary of her that's actually in the game?
Yeah, I mean that's why I had that there in a blockquote as "profile," it's what I've been doing with pages I've built where there's a personnel or glossary entry since it's usually a good opening summary.
I think having multiple official sources is more of a good thing. Comparisons can be made with several sources and recurring information can be easily articulated upon without wanton confusion. The more information about a particular topic, the better. If there is a clear point of contention in the topic, then discussions can be made pertaining to that.
In the case of "that" profile, an excerpt of it is provided in the page if those quotes are lacking.
There's been two female Aces, I think: Nora the Tigress, a Lancer in VC1, and there's an Ace in VC4 called Ette of the Icefield. That one's a tank, but Ette is a woman's name in every language I can find where it is a name.
Hello Kimlasca Warrior, I love art. I love drawing characters from different games and anime, but I don’t know which game your profile picture is from. May I ask which game is your profile picture from?
Naming-wise I like prefixing VC4: for the "game data" articles, kind of giving them a pseudo namespace. Chapter names have in-game English titles, so I'm using them as-is (still possible that the English localization will change the name later, in which case we'll just have to rename the articles, and add a trivia note about different official English spellings). For mission names there wasn't any in-game English, and any translation I attempt (or any other Japanese-fluent wiki contributor comes up with) has a high chance of not exactly matching what the English localization will end up using, so I decided to follow the VC3 example and use the original Japanese names for now, and we will just have to rename them when the English localization become available.
The biggest possible controversy/debate here would be the prefix system. I would propose that they are used only for articles specific about game-specific data/system, and do not apply to articles for lore or real world things.
It seems on this wiki often the Biography section simply contains a character's profile description or in-game "Personnel" data, as opposed to being actual biography (I just checked, English VC1 doesn't call it "Biography"). And then there are things that are partially in-game text but partially edited, which from a copyright/license perspective can technically be an issue (derivative writing).
I doubt the wiki would actually get into trouble for in-game text. Whereas if there are source book or art book text, those would be have a higher potential for copyright problems. There's a difference between documenting information found in a book, versus "plagiarizing" the text of the book.
I would suggest official in-game text (or other official/copyrighted text) be placed in <blockquote> tags (and identify where it is quoted from, so that people would only edit it to correct any quoting mistakes). The in-game "Personnel" text would belong in "Profile" but not "Biography".
"Biography" would be a main article section that is merged with "History" and/or "Story", and avoid direct copy (and shallow edits) of copy-righted text. Some characters, especially squad members that aren't central to the main plot, might only have "Profile" descriptions without a "Biography".
The <blockquote> tag is currently used on some weapon articles such as Lancaar. The css rules would add a background color for the blockquoted, whereas currently it only gets an indentation that isn't always very visually distinguishable.